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Orochi is OP

Post  Skeltueur on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:10 pm

One of the two new characters, the dark templar with fire spells, is too over powered Mad
WIth the basic attack upgrade and attack skills fully upgraded, he is causing nearly 1000 damage by hit...
When using his ultimate, it is impossible to slow or cage him, and he has an attack speed of 0.5, thanks to the attack speed upgrade stuff.
When he charges you, with his skills, he nearly instantly kills you and you cannot even escape since he has a stun and, in ultimate mode, he slows you at every hit you take Sad
And you can't kill him, since you can't slow him down...
What do you think of that ??

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  SadFace on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:16 pm

hes one of the worst heroes around, no real burst and his mode offers no tanking advantages for the early/mid where u get 1 hitted...

no idea of anybody who can use him at a level where he can kill stuff properly without just gettin owned tho i would assume alex has done the most testing with orochi so his insight could be good but my opinion is he sucks ass and is in tier 4 for a reason

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Post  Rip on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:17 pm

his combo is an epic fail his dmg isnt so great and his slow is nigh impossible to hit in end game.....oh and his building push is just laughable
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Post  SadFace on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:18 pm

@Rip wrote:oh and his building push is just laughable

i actually found he can mince things quite well up until u try for the final cos of incredibly high aa power with overlapping damage

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Post  NoonEe on Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:07 pm

I used to think tier 4 heroes are op. Then I took an arrow to the knee...
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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  Alexander on Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:08 pm

Orochi is far from OP, but has his uses. Max attack with attack card AA upgrades as well as fire upgrade (z skill) he does 1500 every .9. This is the strongest mode in the game damage-wise, but he has no damage reduction and that is huge. He can't be trapped, but the damage reduction other modes have means he is more of a support pvp than a tank.

Overall he is cool, but he is hard to use and all of his stuff is damage over time in late game, and blinkers like Zava, Abel, Soul Hunter own Orochi easily.

He is cool though Razz

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Post  Cyclo on Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:01 pm

Alex has been the only player I've seen actually use Orochi well.

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  SadFace on Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:45 pm

uhh does zava really own orochi? squishy and its god damn hard to aim zava's combo when ur slow doesnt really slow

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  SungJ on Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:00 am

Orochi vs Janne = lolololol have fun

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  Ikumo on Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:00 am

Orochi is teir 4 for a reason. His combos don't make sense, and also are way out of place.

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Post  SadFace on Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:11 am

well his combo makes sense if it actually deals damage XD

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Post  Thrallsa on Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:45 pm

@NoonEe wrote:I used to think tier 4 heroes are op. Then I took an arrow to the knee...

I like this reference

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  >Fun< on Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:48 pm

o.O

If u think that Orochi is op I don't want 2 know what u would think about Duran.
Durans burst is superb compared to Orochis. Maybe Orochi is like a Melee-Geist, but he's NOT op. o_o
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Post  SadFace on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:50 pm

@>Fun< wrote:o.O

If u think that Orochi is op I don't want 2 know what u would think about Duran.
Durans burst is superb compared to Orochis. Maybe Orochi is like a Melee-Geist, but he's NOT op. o_o

why use duran as an example when gh/bh are so much better/versatile XD

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Post  >Fun< on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:08 pm

OMFGWTFBBQ, okay didn't thought about Genesic. D:
No, srsly I think in right hands Duran is as good as BH, but just my own oppinion. F+C should be an instant kill if u go Slaveswing. Oh and I haven't got much experience with Upswing, so yea... :S
And in an 1o1 Duran should own Orochi faster than BH.
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Post  michi on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:11 pm

@>Fun< wrote:OMFGWTFBBQ, okay didn't thought about Genesic. D:
No, srsly I think in right hands Duran is as good as BH, but just my own oppinion. F+C should be an instant kill if u go Slaveswing. Oh and I haven't got much experience with Upswing, so yea... :S
And in an 1o1 Duran should own Orochi faster than BH.
ya against melee duran is better but he sucks vs others.

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  SadFace on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:47 pm

also the reason he owns melee is because of upswing not slave (unless the other guy went mode in which case fine its probably better)

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  shmo11100 on Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:23 am

The easiest way to counter orochi i think using mode lur. When i first fought orochi i thought "holy shit 50 plus damage when upgrading attack". Then i found out his weakness. Speed. Speed is the key to winning. Mode lur is fast especially if you are retreating with stim and your still in mode. Same thing with quakers.Mode lur can outrun the charging quakers. Dont go hook with orochi cause it wont help.

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  Pseudoku on Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:46 am

@shmo11100 wrote:Mode lur can outrun the charging quakers.

No. Just no.

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  NoonEe on Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:40 am

I agree. Speed is obviously Orochis weakness.
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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  Cyclo on Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:29 am

I think it's the fact that he doens't sparkle enough. Every other mode melee can easily tell if they're moded or not. I have difficulty telling if Orochi's mode's on. That's his main flaw in my eyes.

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  SadFace on Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:05 pm

what bout the big gaping hole in his offensive arsenal... a melee geist makes no sense...

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Post  shmo11100 on Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:07 pm

Yea i thought orochi was strong(which he is) but his mode is hard to tell. Im guessing Geist could be a good counter since it counters all melee characters but for sure lur cellant works cause he's slow so if he runs you can attack him. The only one thing I did mess up on was getting hook. I used that which was bad cause you want him to stay away not come to you. Unless of course your within range of your turrets.

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Re: Orochi is OP

Post  Cyclo on Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:14 pm

Orochi just isn't the best melee. Melee needs burst damage and Orochi doesn't have the best burst damage. They need to give him his own, unique, version of say final blow, warlord strike, Genesic's blink strike. You know, something to give him better burst damage. Or make one of his spells stop movement with a 1mineral upgrade so he can actually catch and kill them with his mode.

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Post  Modesty on Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:20 pm

@shmo11100 wrote:Yea i thought orochi was strong(which he is) but his mode is hard to tell. Im guessing Geist could be a good counter since it counters all melee characters but for sure lur cellant works cause he's slow so if he runs you can attack him. The only one thing I did mess up on was getting hook. I used that which was bad cause you want him to stay away not come to you. Unless of course your within range of your turrets.

what are you talking about?
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