How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

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How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  Trushy on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:51 am

Just wondering about the new scops of some heros which are able to counter GF freezing spell.
In the past, most of heros have been freezed totally, some have been able to "blink" out of the freeze and one or two hereos have been able to counter it with own spell.
Now, since last update there are few more heros able to just walk out the freeze by counter spell. This ability makes them more or less op against Guard fire and to play as team is no more possible especially in early game.
--> is there any possibility to recounter these counters? Or is it even a bug?

Thanks for helpfully answers in advance
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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  laerik on Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:17 pm

I assume your talking about Orochi, which has an ulti that enables him to walk through traps such as Zedaits and GFs. Imo it's the one of the few things that Orochi got going for him, being a melee besides blade hunter that can escape traps which in general completely negates melee.

So he can only escape when using his ulti mode, that means you cant trap him at least 2/3 of the time since it's cooldown is 45 s and duration 30 s. And there are still plenty of heroes with slow spells that works on him if you want to gank.

*Edit: Ok basically most melee heroes can escape traps with headbutt or ulti attacks. Fobos and Horus can't, prob more I can't think of. However, Orochis ability is very consistant if he mostly engages when in mode.


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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  SadFace on Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:29 pm

fv at the same time, almost always guarantees a v hit if they get hit by the f (but doesnt really work against ppl expecting it...) and then go shoot him again

just go aim at ppl that cant escape XD, if its some1 that can blink normally aim a v at them to force the blink and then trap them (while doing ur best to avoid the counterpot blink attack), if its a blinkstriking melee hit him from high ground and the worst that can happen is u waste ur pot cos he uses a pot to escape in which case u hope to god hes not carrying 2 pots at the time XD

and if ur talkin bout orochi just let him run up to u and unload... ur burst will kill him before he can kill u... if he mindgames it then he wont be hitting u properly anyway so just chill and wait till he actually attacks u and just kill him then, his burst is negligible compared to urs

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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  Pseudoku on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:17 pm

laerik wrote:So he can only escape when using his ulti mode, that means you can trap him at least 2/3 of the time since it's cooldown is 45 s and duration 30 s.

1/3?

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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  SadFace on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:42 pm

nah its 2/3... 45/75 closish to 2/3 -___- also laerik has done maths at uni to some degree so dont doubt his maths yo


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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  laerik on Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:34 am

Did i even get anything right in that post? No

*Sadface i hope you were ironic...
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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  SadFace on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:04 am

loool corrected XD and i actually do the maths course XD

idk if u did, i didnt understand his post so i covered everything missed by u

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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  laerik on Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:45 pm

Ok let's just drop this, i think most ppl understand whatever was meant to be said.

Hilarious 4 math edits sad, erase much on exams? Razz
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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  laerik on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:38 pm

Pseudoku wrote:
laerik wrote:So he can only escape when using his ulti mode, that means you can trap him at least 2/3 of the time since it's cooldown is 45 s and duration 30 s.

1/3?

Very observant, i heard you're good with numbers Wink
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Re: How to re-counter GF freezing counter spells?

Post  SadFace on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:24 pm

laerik wrote:
Hilarious 4 math edits sad, erase much on exams? Razz

T__T we dont do normal maths in maths lol

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